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	<title>Comments on: What is the difference between an e-Portfolio and a Personal Learning Environment?</title>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 04:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is interesting that the distinctions we&#039;re wrestling with focus more on the use and not the tool/application(s).  I can use any number of applications in isolation or in mash to accomplish all of the functions discussed.  I think the showcase, workspace, learning space distinctions subsume much of what has been shared.  I can work and show but not learn.  I cannot learn without work.  I can show without learning or doing much work.  Meanwhile, ownership of the space and its contents also now is distributed across the cloud, making the matter even more problematic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is interesting that the distinctions we&#8217;re wrestling with focus more on the use and not the tool/application(s).  I can use any number of applications in isolation or in mash to accomplish all of the functions discussed.  I think the showcase, workspace, learning space distinctions subsume much of what has been shared.  I can work and show but not learn.  I cannot learn without work.  I can show without learning or doing much work.  Meanwhile, ownership of the space and its contents also now is distributed across the cloud, making the matter even more problematic.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Wheeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Kerry - e-portfolios are the result of working within a PLE - whatever that environment looks like. But I also think we should distinguish between personal and personalised learning environments. I suspect the two have different affordances for the learner...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kerry &#8211; e-portfolios are the result of working within a PLE &#8211; whatever that environment looks like. But I also think we should distinguish between personal and personalised learning environments. I suspect the two have different affordances for the learner&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jacquie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacquie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could a distinction be - PLE where work done and e-portfolio for presenting for a specific purpose eg  assessment, application for study, employment, pdp and cpd

Taking assessment as an example: The PLE would contain a collection of (organised) knowledge – networks, links, material gathered, personal thoughts, ideas, notes. The actual assessment, whatever form, could be ‘taken’ / produced in the PLE. The e-portfolio would consist of the product of assessment and reflection on the process, feedback from tutor/peers, personal reflection on the feedback. These aspects would feed into the planning process.

Couldn’t the e-portfolio just be another aspect of the PLE with the learner using whatever e-portfolio tool best suits the purpose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could a distinction be &#8211; PLE where work done and e-portfolio for presenting for a specific purpose eg  assessment, application for study, employment, pdp and cpd</p>
<p>Taking assessment as an example: The PLE would contain a collection of (organised) knowledge – networks, links, material gathered, personal thoughts, ideas, notes. The actual assessment, whatever form, could be ‘taken’ / produced in the PLE. The e-portfolio would consist of the product of assessment and reflection on the process, feedback from tutor/peers, personal reflection on the feedback. These aspects would feed into the planning process.</p>
<p>Couldn’t the e-portfolio just be another aspect of the PLE with the learner using whatever e-portfolio tool best suits the purpose?</p>
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		<title>By: Kerrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the eportfolio as a result of a PLE, perhaps one part of it, but they really are not synonyms.
The nature of an eportfolio is under discussion at a National Symposium to be held in Adelaide in June.
If you would like to monitor discussion taking place in a forum that is a pre-cursor to that symposium then check http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/eportfolio 
I have linked back to this blog there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the eportfolio as a result of a PLE, perhaps one part of it, but they really are not synonyms.<br />
The nature of an eportfolio is under discussion at a National Symposium to be held in Adelaide in June.<br />
If you would like to monitor discussion taking place in a forum that is a pre-cursor to that symposium then check <a href="http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/eportfolio" rel="nofollow">http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/eportfolio</a><br />
I have linked back to this blog there.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d fully agree that the two are different - regardless of whether or not one or the other or both (or, ideally, neither!) are institutionally owned! 
I&#039;d fully agree that the portfolio is a way of presenting work; the PLE where the work is done (and neither is the sole holder!) 

I see a PLE as the extension of the piles of notes I&#039;ve accumulated ... but not the sole holder. I was doing some work at the weekend - a computer just can&#039;t replace a wonderfully large blank sheet, a nice pencil - at just the right point between too sharp &amp; too blunt (&amp; rubber when required!) There are other things, though, such as organising resources, that a computer based PLE makes *much* easier. 

In the same way, when I&#039;m ready to share my work with others, an online way of doing it is great. Sometimes, such as my main blog, it&#039;s more or less the same as the PLE. At other times, e.g. my &quot;other&quot; blog, it&#039;s a little more hidden, has things that are kept private until they&#039;re ready to be published. 

Ideally, as I say, neither should be institutionally based, however, i can see that an ePortfolio (as long as it has export facilities) as being more appropriate for being institutionally based, as they often are assessment based (here are memories of coursework folders on my MSc, and art folders from O-level; both of which had to be made available to examiners). But, both the coursework folder &amp; the art folder were of a format that once the examiner had done with them, I could take them home. ePortfolios have to have that portability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d fully agree that the two are different &#8211; regardless of whether or not one or the other or both (or, ideally, neither!) are institutionally owned!<br />
I&#8217;d fully agree that the portfolio is a way of presenting work; the PLE where the work is done (and neither is the sole holder!) </p>
<p>I see a PLE as the extension of the piles of notes I&#8217;ve accumulated &#8230; but not the sole holder. I was doing some work at the weekend &#8211; a computer just can&#8217;t replace a wonderfully large blank sheet, a nice pencil &#8211; at just the right point between too sharp &amp; too blunt (&amp; rubber when required!) There are other things, though, such as organising resources, that a computer based PLE makes *much* easier. </p>
<p>In the same way, when I&#8217;m ready to share my work with others, an online way of doing it is great. Sometimes, such as my main blog, it&#8217;s more or less the same as the PLE. At other times, e.g. my &#8220;other&#8221; blog, it&#8217;s a little more hidden, has things that are kept private until they&#8217;re ready to be published. </p>
<p>Ideally, as I say, neither should be institutionally based, however, i can see that an ePortfolio (as long as it has export facilities) as being more appropriate for being institutionally based, as they often are assessment based (here are memories of coursework folders on my MSc, and art folders from O-level; both of which had to be made available to examiners). But, both the coursework folder &amp; the art folder were of a format that once the examiner had done with them, I could take them home. ePortfolios have to have that portability.</p>
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		<title>By: Cristina Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cristina Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find  distinguishing the two very important. And to be honest,  before you mentioned it, I had never thought about them in those terms.
In a very broaden sense - and  not necessarily connected to an institution - I see (the future of) e-portfolios as the new CV - the passport for the new job market...which not only requires a certificate, but some proof of one’s abilities/skills/competences/evidence of know-how and capacity to reflect upon.
I see e-portfolios as a living and reflective record of one&#039;s (life long) learning. An organized log of one’s learning progress and trajectories. That is why I think e-portfolios should have a blogging component, which enable others to also testify about one’s learning. After all, learning is not an isolated activity...not should the reflection of it be totally closed to those who contributed to it.  

Today it is more, or at least, as important to show that you ‘know-how’ than what you actually ‘know’. This is for me one of the most critical skills one has to have these days - to show one is able to learn and is flexible and open enough to engage with different realities / groups/ communities / resources, etc, to  achieve whatever they have to achieve .... 
Could we say PLEs is the aggregation of all those places where learning spontaneously happens as part of those interactions/learning relationships ...?    

I am not a PLE expert - I am not an expert on anything, period!- but the question is: Can PLEs  be developed by a group of techies?  If yes, will it have a definite structure? How flexible will it be?

The way I see it, my PLE is what I want it to be - or better - the sites, the resources, the communities, the individuals, the readings, the new toys, etc, which I decide to make relevant for my growth as an individual and as a professional. My PLE might be meaningful for someone else besides me, but it  might also be total irrelevant for others. 
Can we say my PLE is where my diffuse presence and self wander - it changes from time to time, according to my mood, willing, interests, needs, etc; whereas my eportfolio is my structured self... a kind of retreat, where I meditate about what I have acquired from all of those online and on-site scattered places, and what I have learned with and from all those individuals I establish learning bonds with.     

I like Jenny’s play with words about eportfolios as representation of knowledge. It is always great when you guys get us thinking. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find  distinguishing the two very important. And to be honest,  before you mentioned it, I had never thought about them in those terms.<br />
In a very broaden sense &#8211; and  not necessarily connected to an institution &#8211; I see (the future of) e-portfolios as the new CV &#8211; the passport for the new job market&#8230;which not only requires a certificate, but some proof of one’s abilities/skills/competences/evidence of know-how and capacity to reflect upon.<br />
I see e-portfolios as a living and reflective record of one&#8217;s (life long) learning. An organized log of one’s learning progress and trajectories. That is why I think e-portfolios should have a blogging component, which enable others to also testify about one’s learning. After all, learning is not an isolated activity&#8230;not should the reflection of it be totally closed to those who contributed to it.  </p>
<p>Today it is more, or at least, as important to show that you ‘know-how’ than what you actually ‘know’. This is for me one of the most critical skills one has to have these days &#8211; to show one is able to learn and is flexible and open enough to engage with different realities / groups/ communities / resources, etc, to  achieve whatever they have to achieve &#8230;.<br />
Could we say PLEs is the aggregation of all those places where learning spontaneously happens as part of those interactions/learning relationships &#8230;?    </p>
<p>I am not a PLE expert &#8211; I am not an expert on anything, period!- but the question is: Can PLEs  be developed by a group of techies?  If yes, will it have a definite structure? How flexible will it be?</p>
<p>The way I see it, my PLE is what I want it to be &#8211; or better &#8211; the sites, the resources, the communities, the individuals, the readings, the new toys, etc, which I decide to make relevant for my growth as an individual and as a professional. My PLE might be meaningful for someone else besides me, but it  might also be total irrelevant for others.<br />
Can we say my PLE is where my diffuse presence and self wander &#8211; it changes from time to time, according to my mood, willing, interests, needs, etc; whereas my eportfolio is my structured self&#8230; a kind of retreat, where I meditate about what I have acquired from all of those online and on-site scattered places, and what I have learned with and from all those individuals I establish learning bonds with.     </p>
<p>I like Jenny’s play with words about eportfolios as representation of knowledge. It is always great when you guys get us thinking. <img src='http://www.pontydysgu.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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