Comments on: Open Learning is here – where next? http://www.pontydysgu.org/2008/10/open-learning-is-here-where-next/ Pontydysgu.org Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:22:47 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: » La enseñanza abierta ha llegado ¿Ahora, qué?… -Octubre 1/08 El Blog Boyacense: El sitio de referencia de tod@s l@s boyacenses http://www.pontydysgu.org/2008/10/open-learning-is-here-where-next/comment-page-1/#comment-10206 » La enseñanza abierta ha llegado ¿Ahora, qué?… -Octubre 1/08 El Blog Boyacense: El sitio de referencia de tod@s l@s boyacenses Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:18:55 +0000 http://www.pontydysgu.org/?p=691#comment-10206 [...] La última barrera para la enseñanza abierta, y es una muy compleja, es la acreditación. [L][C] [...] [...] La última barrera para la enseñanza abierta, y es una muy compleja, es la acreditación. [L][C] [...]

]]> By: Open courses, certificates and accreditation at Anto’stuff http://www.pontydysgu.org/2008/10/open-learning-is-here-where-next/comment-page-1/#comment-9219 Open courses, certificates and accreditation at Anto’stuff Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:17:37 +0000 http://www.pontydysgu.org/?p=691#comment-9219 [...] article by Jeffrey Young started a quite large discussion about open courses, more or less hacked certificates, accreditation of informal learning [...] [...] article by Jeffrey Young started a quite large discussion about open courses, more or less hacked certificates, accreditation of informal learning [...]

]]> By: Research at a Glance — October 2, 2008 « Lone Star Learning http://www.pontydysgu.org/2008/10/open-learning-is-here-where-next/comment-page-1/#comment-9209 Research at a Glance — October 2, 2008 « Lone Star Learning Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:37:48 +0000 http://www.pontydysgu.org/?p=691#comment-9209 [...] the conversation about open learning got started this eek and it really heated up yesterday. Graham Attwell took up the thread in his post on the future of open education, and raises important questions about accreditation (read his conclusion). In addition, George [...] [...] the conversation about open learning got started this eek and it really heated up yesterday. Graham Attwell took up the thread in his post on the future of open education, and raises important questions about accreditation (read his conclusion). In addition, George [...]

]]> By: Die Pipe ist wichtiger als der Content | eduFutureBlog http://www.pontydysgu.org/2008/10/open-learning-is-here-where-next/comment-page-1/#comment-9207 Die Pipe ist wichtiger als der Content | eduFutureBlog Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:26:44 +0000 http://www.pontydysgu.org/?p=691#comment-9207 [...] dieser modernen Skills hilft auch die gegenwärtige “explosion in open learning” Graham Attwell). Um nur einige hier [...] [...] dieser modernen Skills hilft auch die gegenwärtige “explosion in open learning” Graham Attwell). Um nur einige hier [...]

]]> By: Open Learning is here - where next? | weiterbildungsblog http://www.pontydysgu.org/2008/10/open-learning-is-here-where-next/comment-page-1/#comment-9196 Open Learning is here - where next? | weiterbildungsblog Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:39:09 +0000 http://www.pontydysgu.org/?p=691#comment-9196 [...] Was meint Graham Attwell mit “Open Learning”? Nun, da sind die unzähligen Online-Angebote, die es gegenwärtig zu aktuellen Lernthemen gibt, allen voran die Kurse von Stephen Downes und George Siemens zu “Connectivism” sowie von Michele Martin und Harold Jarche zu “Web 2.0 for Learning Professionals”. Graham Attwell zählt weitere Beispiele auf, er spricht gar von einer “explosion in open learning”. Hier zögere ich etwas und denke, dass das eine Frage der Perspektive ist. Denn die wenigsten Web 2.0-Nutzer der Bildungs-Community in Deutschland wissen z.B. von diesen Angeboten, von der großen Mehrheit der Learning Professionals ganz zu schweigen. Aber abgesehen davon bleibt auch für Graham Attwell noch eine Frage offen, die unmittelbar mit der zukünftigen Rolle der klassischen Bildungsinstitutionen verbunden ist: “The last barrier to open learning - and a very complex one - is that of accreditation.” Graham Attwell, Pontydysgu, 1. Oktober 2008 [...] [...] Was meint Graham Attwell mit “Open Learning”? Nun, da sind die unzähligen Online-Angebote, die es gegenwärtig zu aktuellen Lernthemen gibt, allen voran die Kurse von Stephen Downes und George Siemens zu “Connectivism” sowie von Michele Martin und Harold Jarche zu “Web 2.0 for Learning Professionals”. Graham Attwell zählt weitere Beispiele auf, er spricht gar von einer “explosion in open learning”. Hier zögere ich etwas und denke, dass das eine Frage der Perspektive ist. Denn die wenigsten Web 2.0-Nutzer der Bildungs-Community in Deutschland wissen z.B. von diesen Angeboten, von der großen Mehrheit der Learning Professionals ganz zu schweigen. Aber abgesehen davon bleibt auch für Graham Attwell noch eine Frage offen, die unmittelbar mit der zukünftigen Rolle der klassischen Bildungsinstitutionen verbunden ist: “The last barrier to open learning – and a very complex one – is that of accreditation.” Graham Attwell, Pontydysgu, 1. Oktober 2008 [...]

]]> By: Pat Parslow http://www.pontydysgu.org/2008/10/open-learning-is-here-where-next/comment-page-1/#comment-9170 Pat Parslow Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:01:00 +0000 http://www.pontydysgu.org/?p=691#comment-9170 Hi, I have been thinking about the issues of open accreditation too. Ideally, I suppose, it would work on a trust network, allowing for an open assessment of a learner's portfolio based on the trust the accrediting institution has in the assessors and in the process of assessment. This is actually similar to the methods of assessment now, of course, but the pool of assessors is chosen by the institution rather than being an open group (although, even then, a great deal of weight is put on the opinions of peer reviewers at PG level, so that geting papers published is almost a short cut to successful assessment outcomes). If the criteria against which an open pool of assessors (i.e. people who are willing to take a look and pass comment on whether a particular piece of a portfolio meets published standards sufficiently well) were available alongside the portfolio, and the marks/comments also available, it would provide a more rigorous approach to assessment than is current in many instances, I believe. This could be achieved by using competence maps to define the required standards for a piece of work, although this might end up with artificially constrained marking schemas and unfortunately these days is almost guaranteed to result in negotiated marks (like negotiated feedback scores on eBay). I'd like to see it happen, and I think it is possible - but there are pragmatic issues relating to honesty and competition which would need to be resolved. Hi,
I have been thinking about the issues of open accreditation too. Ideally, I suppose, it would work on a trust network, allowing for an open assessment of a learner’s portfolio based on the trust the accrediting institution has in the assessors and in the process of assessment. This is actually similar to the methods of assessment now, of course, but the pool of assessors is chosen by the institution rather than being an open group (although, even then, a great deal of weight is put on the opinions of peer reviewers at PG level, so that geting papers published is almost a short cut to successful assessment outcomes).
If the criteria against which an open pool of assessors (i.e. people who are willing to take a look and pass comment on whether a particular piece of a portfolio meets published standards sufficiently well) were available alongside the portfolio, and the marks/comments also available, it would provide a more rigorous approach to assessment than is current in many instances, I believe. This could be achieved by using competence maps to define the required standards for a piece of work, although this might end up with artificially constrained marking schemas and unfortunately these days is almost guaranteed to result in negotiated marks (like negotiated feedback scores on eBay).

I’d like to see it happen, and I think it is possible – but there are pragmatic issues relating to honesty and competition which would need to be resolved.

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